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Edited by Quinn Rose
Engineered by Cameron Bopp
Show art by Emma Mann
Show Notes
Do By Friday #239 - "I Would Love to Be a Nothing"
Alex: [00:00:00] Rabbit rabbit, rabbit, rabbit. Ooh, that's a good spin on it. Oh, rabid
[00:00:10] Merlin: [00:00:10] Hmm. Rabid rabbit, many, many Mary Mary, Mary
[00:00:18] Alex: [00:00:18] the other planes. Oh,
[00:00:23] Merlin: [00:00:23] mains, trains, automobiles, lions, lions, Linus, and Lucy, Lucy
[00:00:31] Alex: [00:00:31] Well, you got, you got
[00:00:33] Merlin: [00:00:33] re cardio
[00:00:35] Alex: [00:00:35] puppers, pup, pup blur, pop, pop poplars. You can put them in your mouth. You
[00:00:41] Merlin: [00:00:41] pop, poppers.
[00:00:45] Alex: [00:00:45] it's a Futurama, a song about the poplars.
[00:00:51] Merlin: [00:00:51] what would you do for a kit? Kat bar.
[00:00:55] Alex: [00:00:55] Oh, good. Good morning,
[00:00:58] Merlin: [00:00:58] Hello.
[00:00:59] Alex: [00:00:59] May I share a very quick and dope with you? Okay. All
[00:01:06] Merlin: [00:01:06] You can share all of the anecdotes. I'm here to be a calm voice in your life people always shushing horses, like having a, as like having a horse, he watches a dog and also you are a horse.
[00:01:23] Alex: [00:01:23] Redford. You're my whisper. No, no, you're the, uh, you're
[00:01:27] Merlin: [00:01:27] Oh, I was doing a bit, Hey, welcome to Do By Friday where we do bits on the millennial whisper Mussolini
[00:01:34] Alex: [00:01:34] I thought that
[00:01:35] Merlin: [00:01:35] Aren't funny, man. They're not
[00:01:36] Alex: [00:01:36] like, or, and, or S O
[00:01:41] Merlin: [00:01:41] Alexandra, you can tell me anything. This is a
[00:01:44] Alex: [00:01:44] sorry.
[00:01:45] Merlin: [00:01:45] safe space.
[00:01:46] Alex: [00:01:46] Sorry. Oh no.
[00:01:48] Merlin: [00:01:48] Just don't discuss gender or mental health or virtual reality.
[00:01:51] Alex: [00:01:51] I'm okay. I won't, um, I am sorry. I'm late. It is. I believe we got on the call at 1208 my time. So it was, I did ask if we could delay recording this program.
[00:02:06] No, no, I'm probably
[00:02:08] Merlin: [00:02:08] for compliments right now? What are you doing? Why are you saying that? You know, you have carp launch. If there's ever a time, when you can abuse me emotionally and give me emotional
[00:02:16] Alex: [00:02:16] No, no, no, no. Well, well
[00:02:19] Merlin: [00:02:19] you want me to have a difficult conversation with someone.
[00:02:23] Alex: [00:02:23] Oh, the solu
[00:02:25] Merlin: [00:02:25] I'll do it in a voice. It's going to be in a funny voice, just so you know. Hello.
[00:02:29] Alex: [00:02:29] the, uh,
[00:02:31] Merlin: [00:02:31] Um, Alexandra's uterus, lawyer
[00:02:34] Alex: [00:02:34] uh,
[00:02:34] Merlin: [00:02:34] I'd like you to say
[00:02:35] Alex: [00:02:35] wait, Douggie ma um, uh, I can't talk and type at the same time. Um, no such thing. Oh,
[00:02:48] Merlin: [00:02:48] here, I cleaned my keyboard this morning and now it's not working very well.
[00:02:50] Alex: [00:02:50] G uh,
[00:02:52] Merlin: [00:02:52] So I'm using another
[00:02:53] Alex: [00:02:53] Oh yeah. Oh,
[00:02:55] Merlin: [00:02:55] This is not about me.
[00:02:56] Alex: [00:02:56] morning. Um, I apologize. I was indeed, uh, fishing for forgiveness, which is, which is a again, you know, it's the sixth step, but, but I I'm, I don't know.
[00:03:07] Merlin: [00:03:07] That's what is that? Is that what Peter or Paul has said that I only make you fishers of compliments.
[00:03:11] Alex: [00:03:11] Okay. Secret gospel. I'm learning about that, you know, but not, not the DaVinci code one.
[00:03:16] Alright. Uh, you do another program called back to work, which I've been a fan of for a very long time. And I was listening to that this morning and it was lovely.
[00:03:29] Merlin: [00:03:29] Oh, and that's why you sent me the, the, the scary horn horn
[00:03:32] Alex: [00:03:32] Yeah. And, um,
[00:03:34] Merlin: [00:03:34] the upsetting tweet bot
[00:03:36] Alex: [00:03:36] very interesting, this was going to be a quick anecdote, but yes, you express some opinions about Twitter clients and productivity and all, all of the great hot tips and tricks and life hacks, but then you mentioned PayPal and you're like, Oh God forbid, anybody ever have to talk to PayPal?
[00:03:56] And do you know who I was on hold with? Nope. You know what it's
[00:04:00] Merlin: [00:04:00] I think it's gotten better.
[00:04:01] Alex: [00:04:01] Although,
[00:04:02] Merlin: [00:04:02] Oh no.
[00:04:03] Alex: [00:04:03] Oh, Barbara.
[00:04:06] Merlin: [00:04:06] Why what's wrong? Oh, are you talking about the, the, the, are you talking
[00:04:10] Alex: [00:04:10] Uh, Hey,
[00:04:11] Merlin: [00:04:11] on the Patriots?
[00:04:12] Alex: [00:04:12] we have a Patrion, the shorter anecdote is related to that. Uh, it was once a month. I, or I try to send Merlin man. And Quin Rose your money be quit. Oh, gosh, no, not at the, the other queen has enough money I'm told. Um, no. Yes.
[00:04:32] Merlin: [00:04:32] this is different from TJ Miller, TJ Miller. Who's who's the guy with
[00:04:35] Alex: [00:04:35] No. Is that
[00:04:36] Merlin: [00:04:36] That's a Miller, right? Who's the guy you always talk about. And you're always speaking to on the show. When we talked about Zelman last week, he started referring to somebody, I think whose name is they're called Miller?
[00:04:46] Alex: [00:04:46] uh, Jay Miller of, of, yeah.
[00:04:51] Merlin: [00:04:51] lolly J Miller J Miller.
[00:04:53] This sounds like
[00:04:54] Alex: [00:04:54] no, no, no. I'm not ignoring
[00:04:56] Merlin: [00:04:56] too. Am I in trouble? Don't don't tell me if
[00:04:58] Alex: [00:04:58] uh, my fault turns out the, the money won't, won't go. If you put in the wrong email too many times to try to send someone something. So that's on me.
[00:05:11] Merlin: [00:05:11] I, you know, I'm all. Thank you. I'm always, I'm
[00:05:15] Alex: [00:05:15] no, I, well, here's, here's the thing,
[00:05:17] Merlin: [00:05:17] Um, I sometimes
[00:05:20] Alex: [00:05:20] we can do. Uh, because you know, uh, our, our Producer Quinn, um, one of the Quins is friends with my spouse. Uh, yeah. Call me by Quinn's name and
[00:05:35] Merlin: [00:05:35] call me by Colin.
[00:05:36] Alex: [00:05:36] be,
[00:05:38] Merlin: [00:05:38] Jesus
[00:05:38] Alex: [00:05:38] are you, are you not calm?
[00:05:40] Merlin: [00:05:40] I thought I was going to be calm this week. Uh, no, no, I'm fine. I'm just, I'm I'm my way an asshole. I'm done making puns. It's like, what kind of monster am I? One of my 50. Oh man. I'm 54. I don't make
[00:05:56] Alex: [00:05:56] Well, thank you for
[00:05:57] Merlin: [00:05:57] but I do sometimes rhyme if that's what it's
[00:05:58] Alex: [00:05:58] I am, and I wa the joke Oh,. Oh, no, no,
[00:06:04] Merlin: [00:06:04] is everything okay? We're we're not in trouble. You're not in trouble to pay Paul in trouble.
[00:06:07] Alex: [00:06:07] I'm on the phone. Um, but I just, it was just, you know, a nice little, I felt like we burned sync. We were, we were in tune with one another time as a flat circle yesterday.
[00:06:16] Yeah. Uh, you, you, you,
[00:06:20] Merlin: [00:06:20] you, you and me, are you in PayPal? What kind of, what kind of unholy triad we talked about here? Are we
[00:06:23] Alex: [00:06:23] don't, I don't have a lady friend with headphones. Uh,
[00:06:29] Merlin: [00:06:29] Every data parent and call it Bali. All right. I'm going to
[00:06:32] Alex: [00:06:32] calm before this? I'm let's let's uh, I'm here to play it.
[00:06:38] Merlin: [00:06:38] Oh, no, no, I'm just, okay. Well I'm, you know, I'm, I'm doing really well. I'm excited. Um, I'm, I'm, you know, not going to talk about technology this week, unless you want to, but everything's coming up Millhouse mostly with this new setup. It's going great. I think we don't talk about, has also been installed. The thing we talked about that happened during the break last week, that's up and running.
[00:07:00] I learned about how you can send geek bench, uh, results to a browser, which I didn't know about. And it compares all your results, which is there's no need for that. Um, what was I going to say? Oh, can I make a remark about our relationship in a way that I, I know it's working in, at least I like it. Okay. I think we, we, we grow as people and I think, uh, you and I, we're not so different.
[00:07:25] You and I, and I just wanna mention two things from texting, cause it's always two texts with you. Two things from the last few hours that I, uh, it makes me like both of us and I'll do mine second. Um, I like that you said, can we push recording back? And then you set a time now I, because I live on a non-standard coast, like you, uh, I that's, that's correct.
[00:07:48] That's correct. Um, and, um, I, uh, transliterated your time to my time. So that way I'd know what time it was, but then, you know what you did, you know what you did right after that? You said, when you said, said, uh, it doesn't, it's not a secret. He said, can we push until 12:00 PM? And you said my time,
[00:08:06] Alex: [00:08:06] thank you.
[00:08:07] Merlin: [00:08:07] and I really appreciated that.
[00:08:08] Alex: [00:08:08] when other people do that too. And I felt bad because I was wait, I was not sending with Siri. I know we're not talking about computers, but, um, when you just do voice to text, but I wish there
[00:08:20] Merlin: [00:08:20] I'm fine. Talking about
[00:08:21] Alex: [00:08:21] Hey, by the way, set sent with texts the same way it's sent with Siri.
[00:08:25] If like you're, um, saying, Hey, Dingus, your air pod or something. But when I'm in the text field, and I'm just doing voice to text, which you can do when you're on the phone, apparently. Um, and you don't want to, I always using my other hand to have an espresso I'm lazy. Anyway, the
[00:08:46] Merlin: [00:08:46] Hm. Is that a term from the community?
[00:08:48] Alex: [00:08:48] Uh, but I know I, because I felt bad that I did not.
[00:08:52] Merlin: [00:08:52] Oh, I
[00:08:53] Alex: [00:08:53] Oh,. I mean, the
[00:08:54] Merlin: [00:08:54] Like the frothy, like the froth, a latte.
[00:08:56] Alex: [00:08:56] the mouthfeel. I mean, I felt bad because I didn't change the calendar update right away.
[00:09:10] Merlin: [00:09:10] Oh, I tried. I tried to, but it makes, I, all I get is propose because you're the jazz girl and own the calendar. And then I didn't want to send you an email about that. So there's lots of ways in which I'm your friend where you don't even know that I'm your friend. So I didn't send you an
[00:09:23] Alex: [00:09:23] get that email just because, but that's cause I'm a monster
[00:09:26] Merlin: [00:09:26] Yeah, the,
[00:09:27] Alex: [00:09:27] on. No, no, it's not. It's not
[00:09:29] Merlin: [00:09:29] but I didn't, I didn't,
[00:09:31] Alex: [00:09:31] me. No, no, no. It's
[00:09:32] Merlin: [00:09:32] um, I'm trouble anyway. I like me. And cause I thought about this morning when I was, I was going to the office this morning and I was thinking about a text that I sent you and you know, me, Alex, I'm not the kind that, that ruminates over much about whether I said the wrong thing or did the wrong thing.
[00:09:50] Um, you know, I'm the Dennis of, of this group on sociopath, but, but I was thinking, and I said, Alex, the text, I think last night. And I was like, I hope I didn't come off. I hope I was being helpful and didn't come off as a Dick. And so now I'm going to say that, that because of, uh, you know, uh, the, the, uh, the way it worked out, I did the right thing.
[00:10:09] Do you remember what I did last night? I said, cause you'd said to me, you're sending money to Quinn Nelson and me, and, and I'm like, no, whatever, no urgency. And then you'd also said something that was a little confusing where you said, if you don't get anything, let me know by five, but these had something about Wednesday and I was confused.
[00:10:29] So then I texted you and I said to you, I says, I said something like no urgency, uh, but no activity seen at, uh, on PayPal for. And I, and I wrote my, the email that I use for PayPal. And I thought to myself, will that have come off as passive aggressive or will that have, and understand that the needle I'm trying to thread here, and this is, you know, communication, you know, it's how we communicate.
[00:10:58] Right. So I think to me, I'm thinking what I'll do is I'll say, I think I'm going to give you the information I think you needed. I want to read, just say out loud, this is not a big deal, but I think this is the information you wanted. And then I was out on a limb a little bit, cause I use the email address that's associated with my PayPal account, which is not the same as my usual email.
[00:11:19] And I thought there's an off, off, off, off chance that Alexandra is very busy a, is on distress leave. Uh, and uh, maybe it would be useful. It would be okay. I think that's what my wife was telling me. They had this where she works and I think
[00:11:34] Alex: [00:11:34] Oh, gosh, we should unpack this in the after show.
[00:11:37] Merlin: [00:11:37] time or something.
[00:11:37] They have a name for it.
[00:11:38] Alex: [00:11:38] Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:11:41] Merlin: [00:11:41] I'll ask, well, let me ask, let me ask again. Um, but then I thought if, if, if they see this, uh, email address and his office chance that it that's the reason why I'll be a hero, if it seems like I'm afraid a word I love, uh, Jaron Dunning, if it seems like I'm Dunning, you like I'm bugging you for money.
[00:12:00] I will fail in a Harmer relationship. So if you have a compliment, you'd like to give me about having included my PayPal associated email address now would be the time to
[00:12:09] Alex: [00:12:09] delivering that email to me. And I realized,
[00:12:14] Merlin: [00:12:14] Thank you for saying thank you.
[00:12:15] Alex: [00:12:15] We are so broken. And I saw that and I normally, I want to give a little thumbs up to most answers when M you know, like, uh, but you know, power, I was power buttering, and I'm like, Oh, this is something you can take care of quickly and do like, so I was going to do a little thumbs up instead of a, Hey Dingus.
[00:12:35] Got it. Uh, and then I'm like, wait, does that sound? It it's like, I don't care. And I'm not listening. And, and this isn't the only person, uh, like I would do a
[00:12:49] Merlin: [00:12:49] which part? The, what? That you didn't respond
[00:12:53] Alex: [00:12:53] Yeah.
[00:12:55] Merlin: [00:12:55] Oh, that you didn't tap me back. And now I feel a left on red.
[00:12:58] Alex: [00:12:58] man. You know, if, if this is the thing that makes Merlin angry or ends your relationship Oh, Boy
[00:13:09] Merlin: [00:13:09] Jesus fucking Christ are this, this new traded third coast person received my useful assistance and didn't back my tap.
[00:13:21] Alex: [00:13:21] back don't don't doesn't like, um, tap back sort of stress you out sometimes.
[00:13:29] Merlin: [00:13:29] Um, back is widely adopted at this point. And it's, uh, my daughter is really fast with the heart of the haha. She's really fast with you. See, this could use an, a phone it's freaky. She does all of her art when she does her. Uh Oh, she's been doing a series. There's some kind of a meme. Uh, I got it's like people, very colorful wearing candy bracelets.
[00:13:55] It's some kind of a bit. Like maybe a tick tock thing. And so she's been doing this ongoing series of, uh, meme art, uh, generating her, me and Martin about characters from of course BoJack where she dresses them up and she puts clothes on them and she has them wear eye candy bracelet. And there's like a psychedelic background.
[00:14:13] I'll find out what, it's, what it's called. And she does it on the phone. And I've learned not to ask. My daughter is a very fortunate, she has, she has her iPhone and she has a, an iPad. And she has access to computers, computers, totally not interested. Like that's for school stuff, iPad. That's when she plays Minecraft or similar.
[00:14:33] Other than that, everything is done on the phone, including the making of art. I'm trying, I'm trying. And you know, I'm being that guy at this point, I'm being a pure Siracusa because I'm like, well, can I, can I show you how to use? You could use layers and affinity designer and Do knockouts and you could do stuff where you don't have to hand draw every pixel, like it's 1989 to like try and remove the noise around hair.
[00:14:55] She's like, no, no, like he's in on the phone. Isn't that a generational difference. Think about you, how much you, you know, wanted to have a Mac, so you could do Mac things. I wanted a
[00:15:05] Alex: [00:15:05] no, uh, or I can
[00:15:07] Merlin: [00:15:07] it on the iPhone and then wild,
[00:15:09] Alex: [00:15:09] see how it
[00:15:10] Merlin: [00:15:10] normal, totally normal,
[00:15:12] Alex: [00:15:12] but I am often the same way. Oh no. I've, I've got,
[00:15:17] Merlin: [00:15:17] eyes and
[00:15:19] Alex: [00:15:19] the opposite. Like I'm, I'm a pretty good type. It like, I'm very fast on the, the words, not so much the characters and my title. Three
[00:15:32] Merlin: [00:15:32] Do you use the thingy? Do you use the three tab thingy to finish with a pop-up that says it looks like you're trying to type this word. Do you use that or do you just, you just type in really fast and hoping that it will fix it for you? You I'm talking about, like, I always forget about the three, whatever it's called the recommend is the secure suggested words.
[00:15:52] Yeah.
[00:15:53] Alex: [00:15:53] to the lifestyle. Yes, I
[00:15:56] Merlin: [00:15:56] When I remember to do it, I get a lot faster. I still miss the forest touch for the cursor. I miss it a lot.
[00:16:03] Alex: [00:16:03] Oh, I
[00:16:04] Merlin: [00:16:04] run out of space really fast. You know what I mean? I gotta, I gotta go back. I gotta do the last roids. I gotta go wrap around and go back down to the space bar. I don't like that.
[00:16:15] Alex: [00:16:15] actually that I don't think was made on a phone. Maybe, I think an iPad though, we'll have to follow up, but I had a while back, we had an idea for an unholy union between a Panda and a Manatee. And so our, uh, our, uh, artistic director, Kevin Budnick drew us up, uh, panicky. Did I not send it to the right?
[00:16:43] The, Oh, there we go. Fucking max. See, that's the thing. There we go. It just arrived.
[00:16:52] Merlin: [00:16:52] I started to think of messages on iOS as being the app. How does one say the app where I accidentally, uh, record
[00:16:59] Alex: [00:16:59] yeah. All the time
[00:17:01] Merlin: [00:17:01] and then occasionally send messages, Alex, how do I always do that? How, why is that first of all? Why is
[00:17:06] Alex: [00:17:06] All
[00:17:07] Merlin: [00:17:07] What's that button there. Does anybody ever use that
[00:17:09] Alex: [00:17:09] The, uh, two, two, yes.
[00:17:12] Merlin: [00:17:12] to, to your matchy?
[00:17:13] Alex: [00:17:13] older folks in my family who just don't are like, I don't want to read that. I'm like, well, all right. Can, can listen. And also sometimes it's, it's just sort of nice for someone to be like, Hey, no need to respond. It's like consensual voicemail.
[00:17:30] Like, I, I guess I've been talking,
[00:17:34] Merlin: [00:17:34] Consensual voicemail. I love that.
[00:17:37] Alex: [00:17:37] where I've been like, Oh fuck this. Although I have sent many, that's like, Oh, Boy, I think it's an unspoken iOS user rule of this is a thing that's going to happen. Just like for how like years, if you typed sex and you meant sex sec, it wasn't, you know?
[00:17:59] Yes. Yes.
[00:18:00] Merlin: [00:18:00] Oh, right, right, right. Or like the class, the ducking, like ducking this panty Kevin furnish show Kevin Budnick made this. Okay. I'm going to say right now, we're going to talk about the show on the show. I think, I think we need to allocate well, if, if Kevin has the cycles, I think we should consider allocating a weekly budget and we should give Kevin money to draw something every week.
[00:18:23] Is my thought not for show art, because then that becomes a gating factor for getting the show out. But if, if Kevin wanted to, I would say if Kevin ever wants to draw, it is as soon as Kevin listens to the show, which is a lot to ask, but maybe even monthly, but I'm looking at this panty and it's making me so happy right
[00:18:38] Alex: [00:18:38] the thing he
[00:18:38] Merlin: [00:18:38] It's very wise.
[00:18:40] Alex: [00:18:40] union. And, but, but
[00:18:45] Merlin: [00:18:45] And, and like that, then that's a Manatee style tale, but it kind of reads like, um, I don't know, some kind of fantastical sea creature, you know, it's really tremendous. The, the I'm gonna call it the muzzle. I really liked the muzzle. Cause it looks like it hasn't shaved.
[00:19:00] Alex: [00:19:00] because no, no, no. A blip.
[00:19:02] Merlin: [00:19:02] Oh, it's a SNU. It's a
[00:19:04] Alex: [00:19:04] goes up on it with a, to find his lettuce. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Th that's
[00:19:11] Merlin: [00:19:11] he knows cabbages until the boats come.
[00:19:12] Alex: [00:19:12] don't have great hearing. So they can't hear the boats and bone stone would have a smell and they're not smart enough to be like, ah, that gross taste that is motor oil that that's w whatever,
[00:19:27] Merlin: [00:19:27] But could they ever play together? I mean, sort of like I'm thinking of like a Sandy, the squirrel in a, in your SpongeBob, or obviously when a BoJack, uh, goes underwater
[00:19:38] Alex: [00:19:38] you know,
[00:19:38] Merlin: [00:19:38] and the spoilers, but places the sea horse.
[00:19:41] Alex: [00:19:41] I've ever seen. Yes. Yes. Okay. Oh, hell
[00:19:45] Merlin: [00:19:45] Oh, my God. It's so good. Don't spoil the ending, but I love the ending when he, when he goes, God damn it. But, um, Oh, Boy, we want you to go with you. I'm gonna write that down. Write down BoJack. I have a message from my daughter. Um, I said to my daughter, uh, Oh, Oh,. I said, Hey, the thing where you make BoJack characters with candy bracelets and psychedelic backgrounds, what is that?
[00:20:07] I want to tell Alex about it. Oh, so, uh, my daughter's using Pixart
[00:20:12] Alex: [00:20:12] Art P I X or
[00:20:14] Merlin: [00:20:14] is that style? Oh yeah, this is where she does a lot of Armenians,
[00:20:19] Alex: [00:20:19] I've. I've actually looked for a number of, uh, good meme maker, makery apps, but so many I have like the scam in-app purchase. It's uh,
[00:20:33] Merlin: [00:20:33] I know. I know you can tell, I, I don't want to be racist, but like, especially with like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, but I'm going to S well, okay, I'm going to say, but I'm not going to say I'm going to say our crypto's zoological creature. Maybe the, uh, the bear version of that half comes from a certain country.
[00:20:52] You look at, you look at these apps, like the face swap apps or the like, make yourself into a Leonardo DiCaprio toasting thing. And like, Oh man, it just doesn't smell. Right. You just know this stuff is no good Pixar. Yeah. She's been using that one a lot for a while. I think this is where she
[00:21:10] Alex: [00:21:10] well, I mean
[00:21:13] Merlin: [00:21:13] uh, frames to Oh, seeing, Oh, here it is.
[00:21:16] I got it. Okay. You ready? You're gonna have to, I'm gonna have to Google this. Uh, Oh yeah. Seen Corp slash glitch core. Mostly. Thin core glitch core.
[00:21:29] Alex: [00:21:29] yes. Yes.
[00:21:32] Merlin: [00:21:32] you
[00:21:34] Alex: [00:21:34] Oh,
[00:21:35] Merlin: [00:21:35] a couple of
[00:21:37] Alex: [00:21:37] this is Oh, well, Merlin. I want to slash know how to make you famous on the, uh, uh, Oh no, no, you've completed.
[00:21:47] Merlin: [00:21:47] Should we put this as a challenge? That can be challenge,
[00:21:50] Alex: [00:21:50] uh, all right. Let's, let's listen to
[00:21:52] Merlin: [00:21:52] You complete me.
[00:21:53] Alex: [00:21:53] make me no friends. There's no friends to be made from this point of view. I'm not radical enough or interesting enough in any direction to make a new friend from this opinion, but like, That is a Tik TOK.
[00:22:07] Do what Oh, Boy eating to happen. And
[00:22:14] Merlin: [00:22:14] What more? What I feel like that was me.
[00:22:17] Alex: [00:22:17] after, after that big buildup, you're like, I believe in internet privacy, it's like, where's this going? Where's this going? And I'm like, well, that's not a hot take. That just seems, yeah, no, such as
[00:22:32] Merlin: [00:22:32] I'm doing too many things here. I'm I
[00:22:35] Alex: [00:22:35] no. Yes, but
[00:22:36] Merlin: [00:22:36] So does that mean I'm back to work? It being full of beans?
[00:22:38] Alex: [00:22:38] that I share.
[00:22:40] You were talking about, you know, internet privacy
[00:22:43] Merlin: [00:22:43] what was I talking about?
[00:22:45] Alex: [00:22:45] asking to, um, like, do you want this app to track you? And it's like, Nope. I don't know. It was yesterday.
[00:22:55] Merlin: [00:22:55] was that it okay. Probably, but I I'm, I'm probably not going to
[00:23:00] Alex: [00:23:00] I am God.
[00:23:02] Merlin: [00:23:02] I like making
[00:23:03] Alex: [00:23:03] after show Merlin. Where could people find the after show or Joe Rogan? Gun
[00:23:10] Merlin: [00:23:10] give us your fucking money.com. Oh, Oh, here we go. Joe Rogan Rogan. Okay. I'm going to send these to you and if she approves, I might put them somewhere. It's gonna drop it on Skype. Oh no, wait, you're on texts like text you, I'll probably send you a voice thing as well.
[00:23:26] Alex: [00:23:26] Oh,
[00:23:27] Merlin: [00:23:27] there's Bobo and let me find Todd.
[00:23:30] She tells it to Todd. Okay. Now you can. I recommend, can I recommend for Todd that you do actually zoom in,
[00:23:39] Alex: [00:23:39] Oh,
[00:23:40] Merlin: [00:23:40] please. Would you, would you be good enough to please zoom in on, on
[00:23:44] Alex: [00:23:44] Oh, okay. Uh,
[00:23:49] Merlin: [00:23:49] I cannot even describe what
[00:23:54] Alex: [00:23:54] uh,
[00:23:55] Merlin: [00:23:55] would you, would you like to read what's in that little, a windows
[00:23:57] Alex: [00:23:57] I'm quirky. Not like other girls. Every day. I wake up in a con man, calm weight, constant state of pain and agony it's okay. Because I take my happy pills. I'm weird. No one gets it, but it's okay. I stare at pretty girls all day on my phone and neglect my schoolwork. Fuck cups. Eat the rich I'm also.
[00:24:22] Okay.
[00:24:29] Merlin: [00:24:29] We should. Okay. I accidentally crossed the line. We should, we should cut that out. Although how fucking great is
[00:24:34] Alex: [00:24:34] Uh,
[00:24:36] Merlin: [00:24:36] Do we have an out there?
[00:24:38] Alex: [00:24:38] Yeah. How about mobile? Boom.
[00:24:39] Merlin: [00:24:39] Okay, Mark marker that. And then I'll just jump back in. Ah, ah, um, marker that. Um, anyway, this is Todd who's. Um, my daughter's favorite character. Uh, he's pretty great.
[00:24:53] He's a pretty great character. I do. We just got to the one where he's Oh my God. Where the two therapists are talking to each other. I wanted to Sykes and ISA Ray, our therapists and, and you have princess Diana
[00:25:04] Alex: [00:25:04] wait, are we thinking of
[00:25:06] Merlin: [00:25:06] and somebody was, it was, I think it was. Okay. Okay. So, so there's two African-American women at one of the three restaurants in the show.
[00:25:13] They're at the, like the, yeah. And they're talking about their, their clients and they can't talk about their clients. So they have to like, they come up with like fake names. It's a BoJack becomes the angsty zebra Bobo, I think. And then, Oh my God, Mr. Peanut butter, he becomes Mr. Chocolate hazelnut spread.
[00:25:35] And he's so cute. And then, and then, um, Diane becomes princess Diana, and she looks just like princess Diana in a white dress, except she has Diane's glasses.
[00:25:46] Alex: [00:25:46] I think,
[00:25:47] Merlin: [00:25:47] And it's like, Oh my God, this show is so freaking good. It's so good. And then, and then princess Carolyn becomes the, the, like the ghost made out of knitting supplies.
[00:25:57] Alex: [00:25:57] adults, man,
[00:25:58] Merlin: [00:25:58] Do you remember this one?
[00:25:59] Alex: [00:25:59] Oh, spoilers for BoJack horseman. Uh, there's a character who, you know, again, spoilers. He, he's not he's it's, it's technically,
[00:26:12] Merlin: [00:26:12] I think two kids, I said
[00:26:13] Alex: [00:26:13] in a trench coat and it's the funniest thing ever in By it's just the funniest
[00:26:19] Merlin: [00:26:19] Basically trying to go to a bar.
[00:26:21] Alex: [00:26:21] is some type of animal and a trench coat.
[00:26:23] And even that gets pretty, pretty close. Sorry, sorry. I don't know why I'm shouting.
[00:26:30] Merlin: [00:26:30] I had a fun exchange. I had to find a fun friendly of, of fake arguing, um, thing on Twitter. Uh, don't bother the tweets gone already, but I'm talking to somebody, I'd say I said something about Vincent don't matter how much you love Vincent adult man. And I fell a nice guy, said, um, I F I'm gonna call him Jason.
[00:26:48] So Jason says something like, cause do you know what it was? I point I posted it a two image, two, no text. And the first image was somebody asking a question on, uh, comments. On fandom. And the other one was an image from the TV show. And this person is, is obviously knitting. The person who posted on the fandom page is needing their brow on the Vincent adult man page.
[00:27:12] Ah, this is really weird and like pedophilic and like how could princess Carolyn not realize that it's kids in a trench coat? And if you really think about it and it's like, well, I mean, I do, I do get it. Um, but then the other, the photo is, is, uh, is Vincent and princess Carolyn at dinner and she's talking and he's trying to drink a glass of wine held in his mannequin hand and his broom hand, which is still good horsey.
[00:27:41] So funny to me. And it's like, it's obvious that it's a child, but, and, you know, anyway, we're going back and forth and a fella says, you know, blah, blah, blah, think about this. And like a woman jumps in and says, well, obviously, you know, he goes to stock market, et cetera, et cetera. And put Boy, find me saying self saying, and I, and I, I cleaned this up with niceness, but I was like, I was like, Jason, It's a talking by PO cartoon cat. And I think the one I'm calling Jason said something like, Oh dear God, what have I done with my life? And then I said, no, no, you misunderstand. You always gotta, you always gotta look at the positive side of things. And that's why Mr. Peanut butter is
[00:28:18] Alex: [00:28:18] I don't, I have no
[00:28:19] Merlin: [00:28:19] And when his ears go, when his ears perk up, isn't that cute?
[00:28:22] Alex: [00:28:22] Oh gosh.
[00:28:27] Merlin: [00:28:27] Beginning of every episode, because this is one of those, like probably three or four shows where we'd never skipped the credits. Sorry, Todd. Um, but there's the thing where he's cool and he's, he's going down and you're sinking and sinking. And then he gets that drunk guy as he's falling backwards into the pool and Diane and peanut butter, look over the side and he's smiling and you see the little canine teeth and we both always go, Oh,
[00:28:50] Alex: [00:28:50] I have a
[00:28:51] Merlin: [00:28:51] Camper is so
[00:28:52] Alex: [00:28:52] visceral, like many people, a very visceral. A reaction to BoJack in any sense. And I'm not sure, like, because the part with the wine drinking and the convert, that's the conversation they have at the restaurant. Welcome to Do By Friday where we try a Vincent adult, men and princess
[00:29:14] Merlin: [00:29:14] Which one, which one? Which characters? Yeah. So it's, I mean, he's not on the show. Like he was on a lot in the first season, but like, yeah, it's, it's when they're on there, like, I guess they're like date, they meet in the bar, she's mad at BoJack and she goes over and she wants to go talk to this guy because he's going to know how to treat a lady
[00:29:37] Alex: [00:29:37] Oh, okay. All right, then I'm not going to, okay. There we go. Oh God, you're just, Oh
[00:29:44] Merlin: [00:29:44] saw, I walked in after actives, after directives last night. Okay, hang on, hang on, hang on. I walked in on, we're going to cut all this out. I walked in on, I was like, Whoa, cause he's next to next to a casket. And, and he's giving the speech and uh, Emma says he's in the middle of an entire episode, long eulogy.
[00:30:06] Alex: [00:30:06] because it was seeing that was the best, like that surprise of like, Oh, it's a bottle. Oh God. Oh God. It's
[00:30:16] Merlin: [00:30:16] And then he finds out, is it the wrong funeral?
[00:30:18] Alex: [00:30:18] good. Uh, there's a place to jump. I, yeah. Okay. I'll jump back.
[00:30:26] Merlin: [00:30:26] Yeah, we can cut a lot of that out. We can cut a lot of that. Oh, uh, Alex I'm. So I've received, I received some images from my daughter and I've been looking at seriously seriously though. Like, I mean, look at what she's made here. You did this on a phone,
[00:30:38] Alex: [00:30:38] she is very
[00:30:39] Merlin: [00:30:39] like she put clothes on the horse.
[00:30:42] Alex: [00:30:42] Yes.
[00:30:43] Merlin: [00:30:43] And she gave him extra eyeliner and made him
[00:30:45] Alex: [00:30:45] here's the thing we've talked about this on our incidental computer show, I would love to have my iPhone as my main computer. Like my main hub that spits to everything else, you know, I'm like, I would like a laptop. I would
[00:31:06] Merlin: [00:31:06] It becomes like, you're like the way drafts is for text. Your phone is for your life.
[00:31:09] Alex: [00:31:09] for most people around the world that that is their computer. And I, I think it's
[00:31:17] Merlin: [00:31:17] Oh, a hundred percent. A hundred percent.
[00:31:19] Alex: [00:31:19] people can do. I love to see what they do. I can't wait to see what they do with it,
[00:31:27] Merlin: [00:31:27] I can't wait to see. I totally agree.
[00:31:29] Alex: [00:31:29] Oh, no, it's okay. The,
[00:31:31] Merlin: [00:31:31] Also have an incoming, Oh, sorry,
[00:31:32] Alex: [00:31:32] up too much of her and with, sorry, Quinn got that out.
[00:31:35] Um,
[00:31:37] Merlin: [00:31:37] No, you Oh,.
[00:31:39] Alex: [00:31:39] Indeed indeed.
[00:31:41] Merlin: [00:31:41] Oh, Boy, that's gonna be falling down at it.
[00:31:42] Alex: [00:31:42] Oh gosh.
[00:31:47] Merlin: [00:31:47] We're going to come back midwife. Okay. We're gonna come back to, um, I thought I turned on to D and D what's happening. Um, uh, and I've also received a missive from my lady friend, uh, w uh, when people, uh, take, take, take, uh, take a break from work and it's for psychological reasons, it's called leave stress, leave one, write that down.
[00:32:14] And then there's something. I was going to write down for a
[00:32:15] Alex: [00:32:15] grind core, uh, just
[00:32:18] Merlin: [00:32:18] deathwatch no, there was
[00:32:20] Alex: [00:32:20] like do a me
[00:32:21] Merlin: [00:32:21] what's it called? Oh, I'll make a meme. I'm going to write that down on the sheet. Okay. Oh, no, no. I'm typing in a text. Oh, Alex, I'm having a lot of problems. I think, I think I might be having some kind of a, uh, an incident.
[00:32:35] Alex: [00:32:35] don't know. I a lot.
[00:32:43] Oh,
[00:32:45] Merlin: [00:32:45] I mean, you know, everybody's different, uh, wrote that down. You have something here in under news and topics. Oh yeah. I had said if they want to talk about it, how it's, I'm still struggling with the day and it's not because I'm, I'm, I'm trying to be, uh, it just, especially when I'm talking about a particular person in a
[00:33:02] Alex: [00:33:02] you are okay. You are referring to pronouns. I'm just giving this could be someone's first episode. Although if it is, they've definitely turned it off by now, but
[00:33:13] Merlin: [00:33:13] Right.
[00:33:14] Alex: [00:33:14] I know. This
[00:33:16] Merlin: [00:33:16] We don't even know how much has been caught out. So if so, if you've got the Neo ones, like you say, you identify as a jaw, like, but so you be like, they is more like a Nia
[00:33:27] Alex: [00:33:27] yeah. I, I use they them
[00:33:28] Merlin: [00:33:28] and old
[00:33:29] Alex: [00:33:29] uh, and non binary slash trans. It, it is a very fluid, like my gender isn't really fluid. Um, I, I would love to be enough, but okay. So you sometimes mess up, uh, they slash them pronouns for me, but you also knew me as when I use she. Yeah. And then on top of that layer, I believe I even said to you and max, like, Hey, yeah, these are my pronouns, but I don't want that like internet attention right now.
[00:34:03] So like, feel free to use it.
[00:34:08] Merlin: [00:34:08] Oh no, no, no, no. I'm just
[00:34:10] Alex: [00:34:10] you had, you had two, but you had two layers of referring
[00:34:13] Merlin: [00:34:13] I want to get
[00:34:14] Alex: [00:34:14] Yeah, I know. I know. And I, but
[00:34:17] Merlin: [00:34:17] two. There's always two layers with you.
[00:34:19] Alex: [00:34:19] video. I'll try to find it. Um, it was probably a Tik TOK, actually that w this person was just articulated how I feel in a much better way where okay.
[00:34:30] Using the correct pronouns is great and necessary. However, if there's somebody in my life who I know perceives me as I want to be perceived and thinks of me, and the way I present myself, that's way better than someone using a token pronoun and like putting a sticker on like, my, my parents felt all the time and
[00:34:55] Merlin: [00:34:55] Oh, wow. That's a, that's a good, that's a good and cool way to look at it. Like even, or, or the corollary, which is even if you call me everything or you ref you think of me refer to me in the way that I would prefer. Like, if you still think I'm some kind of a blinded
[00:35:10] Alex: [00:35:10] don't think you've ever really thought of me as a particularly feminine person the same way that
[00:35:18] Merlin: [00:35:18] This is where you, Boy, you really, you you're so lucky to have me as, as one of your favorite friends. I have no libido. I w I really Beto. I mean, to me, having a libido would be like holding your urine for a long time. Like, I can just get rid of the libido. I'll just, I'll fix it. You know, it's like a sneeze for me.
[00:35:35] And then I get right back to everything. I don't think about anybody that way. Even myself, if I'm being honest,
[00:35:40] Alex: [00:35:40] what I wait, how
[00:35:42] Merlin: [00:35:42] I thought about, you said stepping on stamps a lot more
[00:35:44] Alex: [00:35:44] what? Wait, what did the, I'm having a neurological effect.
[00:35:49] Merlin: [00:35:49] Well, I'm just saying you, you got I'm like, I'm a regular, what's the name? Which one is the SA viscera. So Sarah, is that the
[00:35:55] Alex: [00:35:55] the Oh,, uh, varies.
[00:35:57] Merlin: [00:35:57] I'm like that guy. You know what I'm
[00:35:59] Alex: [00:35:59] I think it's is
[00:36:00] Merlin: [00:36:00] I walk around my hands and my sleeves. What's his name? Verus verus see, there's a verus and that is nervous.
[00:36:06] Saras and then she named one of the dragons after her brother. He wants his crown. Remember that we're going to Do By Friday. It's a show where we talk about TV shows and
[00:36:13] Alex: [00:36:13] I just saw in the notes that I forgot that the sec stall the synthetic partner. Oh my God. Oh, Diane Oh, D
[00:36:25] Merlin: [00:36:25] Diana, am I right? Was it on BoJack where I think it must have been in the show, but this book BoJack Boucek refers to Diane as
[00:36:36] Alex: [00:36:36] yes. Yeah. Or a Vietnamese Daria or something like that. And like, and I was like, Oh fuck. Oh yeah.
[00:36:43] Merlin: [00:36:43] Ali.
[00:36:45] Alex: [00:36:45] Yup. I've
[00:36:46] Merlin: [00:36:46] then I was like, Emma, you should
[00:36:47] Alex: [00:36:47] to her as well as Darlene from Roseanne and after checking, I was like, ah, yep. This checks out.
[00:37:01] Merlin: [00:37:01] Oh, um, with me and my new friend, Alexandra token. Oh, the Chicago tokens. Uh, I had something here, if you wanted to, uh, I dunno if it's interesting or not, but I just wanna leave the door open if you ever would like to talk about how things are going, how you're feeling on stress leave, you could do that, but then you actually, uh, and so I'm going frequently to the third one.
[00:37:20] Cause if you want to do that, you know, you could do that, but I think there's something here on your third bullet in including my Fu you have a third bullet here now. Who's who's what's going on with this.
[00:37:29] Alex: [00:37:29] Hey, I think Merlin
[00:37:30] Merlin: [00:37:30] who's getting
[00:37:31] Alex: [00:37:31] fact that I am on I'm on a sabbatical slash leave. I don't know the technical term for my job job because, uh, I'm bipolar and I need to have a, like all of my medication reset and everything is fine. Yeah.
[00:37:51] Merlin: [00:37:51] When I heard the end of last week, terrible, terrible episode. Listen to Alex talking about this in the last, what? Probably 20 minutes or so. Not very long, but you talked about really well and people said nice things, and I think you're already seeing that it's good
[00:38:04] Alex: [00:38:04] send me messages that made me really happy. Oh my
[00:38:09] Merlin: [00:38:09] and me having interrupted you three levels deep. Do you want to, uh, previously on, on, uh, Alex's uh,
[00:38:16] Alex: [00:38:16] I just wanted people to know that, uh, you're not in trouble and everything's fine. And I just wanted to, like, it was, cause I told Merlin, like folks are gonna, I guess, probably know that there's something different and it is nothing it, and then that's, but
[00:38:32] Merlin: [00:38:32] be nothing. This could be nothing, nothing, nothing.
[00:38:34] Alex: [00:38:34] of it is part of like the nothingness, because it's for, for me and in some situations, sometimes it really goes a long, is completely parallel to physical health.
[00:38:45] So, uh, yeah. Yeah,
[00:38:51] Merlin: [00:38:51] I mean, God, God, I hope so. At some point it's, isn't it eventually, I mean like, okay, so I've got some pretty hot takes. One of my hot takes is, and this is not really, it's just, I'm just having fun, but not really. I almost feel like at certain levels in
[00:39:05] Alex: [00:39:05] Mm. Yes. Yes.
[00:39:09] Merlin: [00:39:09] sorta like PE because it's, I think I mentioned it here once before, but I don't.
[00:39:13] I mean, there are people who love math, the maths above all things, but it's amazing how much stress, a couple of different kinds of classes can have in a way that drags down the entire experience of going to school. Because of what it is and because of how it's taught in the case of both math and P E C also maintenance phase where they don't know anything about Johnny Carson, but, uh,
[00:39:35] Alex: [00:39:35] Yeah. Yeah. The
[00:39:36] Merlin: [00:39:36] he was like, Oh, really famous comedian at the time.
[00:39:39] Alex: [00:39:39] Yeah. I'm like,
[00:39:39] Merlin: [00:39:39] Was he? I feel like Siracusa. Was that, was that
[00:39:42] Alex: [00:39:42] I don't know. Yeah. What,
[00:39:43] Merlin: [00:39:43] next,
[00:39:44] Alex: [00:39:44] what was Apple making? Uh, you know, their, their own chips, a big deals. That big deal. I don't know him. No, whatever. Oh, Oh,
[00:39:54] Merlin: [00:39:54] when chance, the one chance for the
[00:39:55] Alex: [00:39:55] I, uh,
[00:39:56] Merlin: [00:39:56] they bring in the wrong guy,
[00:39:57] Alex: [00:39:57] I want to feel sad.
[00:39:59] Like I, I put in that's like my email podcast, uh, Okay.
[00:40:05] Merlin: [00:40:05] I listened to reconcile with
[00:40:07] Alex: [00:40:07] Merlin. Sorry to interrupt, but where could people find your show with your worst, best friend, John Siracusa to
[00:40:13] Merlin: [00:40:13] Oh Jesus.
[00:40:16] Alex: [00:40:16] re re
[00:40:20] Merlin: [00:40:20] the one with the one with your English friend comes out today.
[00:40:24] Alex: [00:40:24] RD
[00:40:27] Merlin: [00:40:27] RD R D R R
[00:40:29] Alex: [00:40:29] Oh, a pirate.
[00:40:33] Merlin: [00:40:33] uh, and then one with our English friend, I believe comes out today.
[00:40:36] Alex: [00:40:36] Oh, Oh, that's what? Yes, yes. Murder. So
[00:40:42] Merlin: [00:40:42] I don't know why we're trying to keep this a secret. And if you're a member of relay, you get to hear our, uh, our annual, uh, interview with a friend. Uh, and, uh, this, uh, the one that comes out today, it's with, uh, I'm Michael Hurley.
[00:40:52] Alex: [00:40:52] talked to him the other day, uh, for, well, like interviewed him the other day for a thing. So it was a very pleasant voice. Oh, yeah.
[00:41:02] Merlin: [00:41:02] I got my cortex, it got me new
[00:41:03] Alex: [00:41:03] I got mine as well, and I was, I was like this cover Oh, aye. Aye. Oh, I haven't yet. Wait, where's mine. How have I not looked at it yet? This is so important.
[00:41:16] Yes it's
[00:41:18] Merlin: [00:41:18] It's kind of, it's kind of velvety.
[00:41:19] Alex: [00:41:19] and
[00:41:21] Merlin: [00:41:21] Mine's at home. So I can't look
[00:41:22] Alex: [00:41:22] yeah. Okay. Uh,
[00:41:24] Merlin: [00:41:24] to lick your, look, your
[00:41:25] Alex: [00:41:25] Hmm, huh? Huh?
[00:41:28] Merlin: [00:41:28] What are the
[00:41:29] Alex: [00:41:29] no, well, yes, but like there's very little taste in, uh, I think a good way. Like there's. Oh, well I'm okay. So I'm doing the cover and if you lick the little cortex, subtle symbol in the corner, like that's an intro it's like, uh, yeah. Yeah. So I'm going to
[00:41:53] Merlin: [00:41:53] Oh, so it's got good mouth feel because of the dance
[00:41:57] Alex: [00:41:57] Oh, God. No, just Do
[00:42:00] Merlin: [00:42:00] uh, out of
[00:42:00] Alex: [00:42:00] hope six. Okay. Uh, yeah.
[00:42:03] Merlin: [00:42:03] Uh, six,
[00:42:04] Alex: [00:42:04] Yeah. Uh, well, I,
[00:42:05] Merlin: [00:42:05] Oh, you're going to go to a page because of the number of pages. Oh, we also talk about Buddha. We talk about Buju with, uh, with my curly. I
[00:42:12] Alex: [00:42:12] Oh, this I taste the dyes. I think
[00:42:15] Merlin: [00:42:15] good about it. Talks about notebooks. Well, I was reading about it. I went to the, I was Googling the kind of paper that they used because I really enjoy things like when people describe things, um, how can I put this? It would be just like talking about silverware patterns, but like discussing, like trying to make, trying to describe a kind of paper.
[00:42:36] Like you're a company, you sell paper and the paper you sell, you have different kinds of paper, you charge different amounts. So how do you
[00:42:42] Alex: [00:42:42] a way.
[00:42:43] Merlin: [00:42:43] where you don't sound like a lunatic? I think that takes a lot of, you know what I'm saying? Like to try and describe what are you going to say?
[00:42:49] It's acid free. Okay. Or like, whatever, but like, you know what I mean? That's the kind of thing where you that's where good writing
[00:42:55] Alex: [00:42:55] God, it's, it's like, Barry, like you can talk about it for hours, but then I still don't know.
[00:43:04] Merlin: [00:43:04] Oh, wait, I know this, I know this. I know this from BoJack. Uh, that's uh, expensive blueberries for douchebags.
[00:43:10] Alex: [00:43:10] no.
[00:43:10] Merlin: [00:43:10] Remember that when they, with the, the girl from the show. And remember that what's her name? No. Tell me your name.
[00:43:15] Alex: [00:43:15] the girl,
[00:43:16] Merlin: [00:43:16] want to makes me sad. What's her
[00:43:17] Alex: [00:43:17] uh, Oh, the daughter the, mm
[00:43:20] Merlin: [00:43:20] Jamie Lynn,
[00:43:21] Alex: [00:43:21] yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:43:24] Merlin: [00:43:24] to get clean. She's about to get a 90 day token. Remember
[00:43:27] Alex: [00:43:27] Yeah.
[00:43:30] Merlin: [00:43:30] bury things in our,
[00:43:31] Alex: [00:43:31] By Friday, everybody where we.
[00:43:33] Merlin: [00:43:33] days.
[00:43:35] Alex: [00:43:35] Oh, God, I don't want to think about it. No, no, I don't want to think about it and I don't want to spoil it.
[00:43:40] And now I'm far away from my microphone. I think about it almost every day.
[00:43:44] Merlin: [00:43:44] thinking about it. I think
[00:43:45] Alex: [00:43:45] I still do. I still have not finished the show challenge. Maybe that is, uh, something that I will put myself through for the sake of the show, but, but, uh, you interrupted me well, I'm welcome to Do By Friday a show where I pitched that, uh, people should listen to Merlin and John show reconcilable differences and people become a relay FM member, which is the, you know, the network they're on.
[00:44:10] And then you can hear the episode with British Boy, Michael Hurley, uh, who, whose notebook? I was just licking. And it's a very good one. Cortex. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, court textbooks.
[00:44:22] Merlin: [00:44:22] He'll be happy to hear that.
[00:44:23] Alex: [00:44:23] Oh, thank you.
[00:44:24] Merlin: [00:44:24] I just want people to be happy. I want you in particular to be happy. Who's giving
[00:44:27] Alex: [00:44:27] Oh, no. D uh, dignity,
[00:44:29] Merlin: [00:44:29] Is this really for the show or is this for something
[00:44:31] Alex: [00:44:31] Douggie dignity, uh,
[00:44:34] Merlin: [00:44:34] Augie. Doug, Doug,
[00:44:36] Alex: [00:44:36] D
[00:44:38] Merlin: [00:44:38] Doug, Mr. Peanut butter. Mr. Peanut butter has a catch phrase. Go ahead. Keep going. I'll
[00:44:46] Alex: [00:44:46] got, we got it.
[00:44:47] Merlin: [00:44:47] I'll bring it in at the, at the right
[00:44:48] Alex: [00:44:48] three, two, one, my landlord Douggie, who I've been told by people doesn't seem like necessarily necessarily a good or competent landlord because, you know, in the past we weren't allowed to hang things on walls and the, uh, our dishwasher doesn't fit into the space.
[00:45:10] It should. The, yeah, we, we, it has been confirmed.
[00:45:14] Merlin: [00:45:14] the process.
[00:45:16] Alex: [00:45:16] Yes. Uh,
[00:45:17] Merlin: [00:45:17] maybe good hearted, but very new to
[00:45:18] Alex: [00:45:18] were hit,
[00:45:19] Merlin: [00:45:19] Still figuring it out.
[00:45:20] Alex: [00:45:20] his landlord cherry and he now has said, uh, I know. Um, well,
[00:45:30] Merlin: [00:45:30] Where'd you do it
[00:45:31] Alex: [00:45:31] Oh yeah. Oh,
[00:45:32] Merlin: [00:45:32] on the kitchen table that you keep moving?
[00:45:33] Alex: [00:45:33] hasn't noticed the Synology yet, but I look forward to that. Um, he hasn't been since then. Yup. Yup. Can't get rid of
[00:45:41] Merlin: [00:45:41] that's a load bearing. Synology.
[00:45:42] Alex: [00:45:42] cardboard. Um, No Boy. Yes, please. Okay.
[00:45:47] Merlin: [00:45:47] kicking and screaming
[00:45:48] Alex: [00:45:48] sent, Oh,
[00:45:49] Merlin: [00:45:49] All right. All
[00:45:50] Alex: [00:45:50] as always, uh, you and Maddie, both of you are such good tenants. I would love to have you here's the lease. We aren't raising the rent. Uh, just, just please here's the lease and really sees kind of in a gym, a jam as you'd say, because nobody, uh, not nobody, but some people, some, yeah, some people aren't really
[00:46:11] Merlin: [00:46:11] Oh, because of the demand.
[00:46:12] Alex: [00:46:12] Chicago, there's a lot of places where people are buying and fewer people are renting and I am a renter. I am not a buyer. And I am like, wait, wait, I can use this to my advantage. I can, I think perhaps give a list to Douggie of sure. I would love to sign this lease, but as Oh,, and as you mentioned in your email, there, are there any outstanding repairs?
[00:46:41] Why? Yes, there are. And. I am just wondering, and I want to ask you as well as our listeners, what would be repairs slash I don't know, amenities that you would expect to have in a apartment that you are renting. Okay.
[00:47:01] Merlin: [00:47:01] I have a suggestion. I have a suggestion that is mostly a, um, That's a container for a request. It's more like, like an M KV around your, uh, around your M
[00:47:15] Alex: [00:47:15] That's
[00:47:15] Merlin: [00:47:15] Right? So
[00:47:17] Alex: [00:47:17] computer show.
[00:47:18] Merlin: [00:47:18] whatever that means, but I'm going to give you a route. I'm going to give you a rapper for whatever you want that has characteristics.
[00:47:24] And then into that, you may pour whatever it is you desire, but as part of this process, it'll be important for you to consider what it is you want carefully. My suggestions are these. And forgive me if these are obvious, but is the obvious things we need to hear. You need us for one thing you need to ask for one thing, and it needs to be something that is a zero or a one when Douggie and you or whatever.
[00:47:46] However, it works out whenever the project is done, we'll know it's done. Everybody will know and see that it's done. And. Uh, and it's and half a sec, I'll tell you what I think it's important. So I think, yes, for one thing, super clear, uh, bonus points, if it's something that benefits the long-term value of the place.
[00:48:09] And so as against what Merlin, Mr. Smart ass, don't be indecisive or
[00:48:16] Alex: [00:48:16] Oh, God. No, I.
[00:48:17] Merlin: [00:48:17] for a change in attitude. You know what I mean? I know you're not, I know you're not, I know you're not, but I'm just, I'm trying to be super clear here. This is the, the retired, a large animal veterinarian and project manager in me saying, you need to ask for one thing, that's not too onerous, but will be very valuable to you will not, he will not feel negatively about, but could, might actually feel positive about, uh, you know, could be something that helps signal that you also value the place.
[00:48:43] And so I would think, and that, and that also then opens the door for something a little bit bigger. Like if it's something like, so here again, the classic Merlin, the lessons I've learned. Yeah. Well, you can finally fix the sink. Well, what do you, what do you mean fix the sink? And finally, that was kind of an asshole thing to say during the Charlie work, you know what I'm saying?
[00:48:59] Um, and so I would think about that and it's just that you, uh, I think you need to have something very clear as they used to say in England, in the seventies, a short, sharp shock, something nice and easy. And, and that, that could be things now. What are the things that first of all,
[00:49:13] Alex: [00:49:13] genuinely wonderful advice that I would not have thought of. Thank you.
[00:49:20] Merlin: [00:49:20] It's, it's a, it's a corollary to the corollary about excuses in life, which is excuses or, or reasons as you say, only ever give one reason for anything. If you ever give more than one reason for anything, it's obvious that it's actually an excuse and you just don't want to do something. And in this instance, I think one decisive thing, like you might say, I don't know, we want a new, solid core front
[00:49:42] Alex: [00:49:42] Like
[00:49:42] Merlin: [00:49:42] We want, uh, we, we would love for you.
[00:49:45] Alex: [00:49:45] I don't know what
[00:49:46] Merlin: [00:49:46] I'm trying to think of something that's specific. No, no like, like maybe you don't like your door or it, it could be something like, we'd like you to consider running two 20 to this area so that we can have a dryer or whatever it is, but like a specific thing or improvement, he sounds like he framed that as a repair.
[00:50:05] So maybe you might want to conduct it that way. But, um, and also I would not do it an email. I would call him and say, Hey, whatever. I would make it more personal or say, Hey, this is great. We'd love to talk to you about this. Why don't you bring, you know, bring along at least, and we'll talk about it. And, uh, you know, and that way you're building your relationship rather than seeming like you're threatening them because most landlords are actually, um, incredibly
[00:50:29] Alex: [00:50:29] Like most,
[00:50:29] Merlin: [00:50:29] Nobody wants to talk about that, but most landlords are
[00:50:31] Alex: [00:50:31] but they're still, they're still humans who are
[00:50:34] Merlin: [00:50:34] So they busted, they blessed her and they blow fish.
[00:50:37] Alex: [00:50:37] and real, real talk. Like I, you know, get up, get on my soap box about owning land and bullshit. But God, I can't even imagine what his, like, everyone's got something going on. Maybe he's on stress leave.
[00:50:54] And I don't know. I mean, I dunno, I think about that all the time. Yeah.
[00:51:00] Merlin: [00:51:00] Yeah. Yeah. He might be on stress. Leave the place, the place my mom and I moved into a, this is a little bit of Merlin's, um, uh, lower middle-class corner, paper cuts. Um, so when my stepfather with technically his son threw us out of the house, my mom and me, um, which scramble to find a place. And my mom, uh, as I said before, one of the proudest times in life proudest I've ever been in my mom is how she handled this incredibly stressful period in our lives.
[00:51:27] Uh, so we got thrown out of our house, uh, by her husband and, uh, we had scrambled and my mom found a place. It had stinky cat pee rugs, but she found us a two bedroom, one bath house. Near where I would eventually go to high school, uh, for $250
[00:51:41] Alex: [00:51:41] still really not very cheap, but like for,
[00:51:45] Merlin: [00:51:45] And we moved in
[00:51:46] Alex: [00:51:46] Okay.
[00:51:47] Merlin: [00:51:47] is really cheap.
[00:51:48] That's pretty damn cheap. And like it's yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's, that's, I mean, for like a, you know, a house on a lot to rent. Um, but I remember at some place we weren't there all that long. Were there a couple of years for we, my mom did buy a house, but, um, she's got a great deal on a house, but anyhow, long story short, this guy, uh, he was this young guy.
[00:52:09] He was like a guy in his thirties, had a wife and a kid. And I think he was a real estate agent, but that doesn't always make you the smartest person about real estate. This was the go-go eighties. Uh, and it was, I think he basically bought the, he bought like three houses as investments before the recession had truly started the 82 ish recession, long story short.
[00:52:31] Uh, that's where I learned the phrase balloon mortgage. Where you, well, I don't exactly understand because landownership is bullshit, even though it really, you know, uh, you know, real estate is the only true
[00:52:42] Alex: [00:52:42] strain, I guess,
[00:52:43] Merlin: [00:52:43] the Roderick family.
[00:52:43] Alex: [00:52:43] too.
[00:52:47] Merlin: [00:52:47] Like, I, it's my understanding, there's a couple of things to this that were, it seemed like a great thing at the time. like Justin McElroy getting the credit card. So you get the free reds hat, like he's thinking about the Red's hat, but he's not realizing how easy it's going to be to wreck his credit.
[00:53:02] This dude bought, I believe three houses as investments to rent out to people now, you know, first time landlord, uh, how great are you going to be at owning? And landlording three cheap houses. Like we're probably the best tenants he ever had. Like most of the people who are going to be in a $200 a month house, like just saying anyways.
[00:53:22] So I think a couple of aspects of the mortgage that he got right before the recession hit, is it, first of all, had fairly low down payment. Like, you know, like in San Francisco, most places for a long time, it was like you had to put out, put down like at least 20%, something like that, very low down payment to get you in the door and then like fairly low payments for a real long time.
[00:53:41] The balloon part of a balloon mortgage is that after a certain date, regardless of the kind of mortgage it is after a certain date, like a big bunch of money is due. So I think what happened was he bought three, three houses and at some point he had the balloon come Do on three
[00:53:58] Alex: [00:53:58] Oh my God.
[00:53:59] Merlin: [00:53:59] at the same time. And like, you know, whatever bad on him, silly guy, young guy. But like, you know, I'm not, Hey, I'm not here to like, you know, defend the landlord
[00:54:10] Alex: [00:54:10] It's no, no.
[00:54:12] Merlin: [00:54:12] know everybody's
[00:54:13] Alex: [00:54:13] that terrible? It's
[00:54:14] Merlin: [00:54:14] We can cut all that out. That was terrible.
[00:54:16] Alex: [00:54:16] I mean, I, the only, that's fine for Merlin I've ever thought in my head is like, you, you often said that even Bano has a boss, which is something I was like, yeah, but he gets to choose. Oh really? Oh, uh,
[00:54:37] Merlin: [00:54:37] I do. I do agree with that.
[00:54:38] Alex: [00:54:38] Oh, okay.
[00:54:40] Merlin: [00:54:40] You said it in my backyard, I'll find it for nets.
[00:54:42] Alex: [00:54:42] Yes. I noticed, I noticed you've got the
[00:54:44] Merlin: [00:54:44] So when YouTube now put the whole thing on YouTube so people can see it.
[00:54:48] Alex: [00:54:48] yeah, yeah,
[00:54:49] Merlin: [00:54:49] Yeah. And the cat comes through the yard and the people playing basketball and John yelling at my cameraman's friend, it's all in there.
[00:54:56] Alex: [00:54:56] I
[00:54:57] Merlin: [00:54:57] People always try to shortchange on copper pipe. It's a very good interview.
[00:55:00] Alex: [00:55:00] or Venmo Goodlord Vimeo anyway. Uh, Oh, God, humanity,
[00:55:06] Merlin: [00:55:06] Oh, it's funny. I was watching
[00:55:07] Alex: [00:55:07] you were horse. Oh, I guess you're all. You're a horse guy again. Oh my gosh.
[00:55:16] Merlin: [00:55:16] Why aren't people always shushing
[00:55:17] Alex: [00:55:17] Uh, anyway, Bano can choose his
[00:55:21] Merlin: [00:55:21] horses, and
[00:55:21] Alex: [00:55:21] And that is the big difference I also think of and landlords just suck. I mean, I think the, I I've, I'm okay to be like Rose winter right now. Yeah.
[00:55:38] Merlin: [00:55:38] Yeah. I mean, it's like sharecropping or something. It's like, it's like, sure. I bet there's some good ones out there, but there's things about the nature of that relationship that in most instances have really pro approach heavily, um, given way more power to one
[00:55:52] Alex: [00:55:52] Who, who gave them that power and that privilege and. I think more often than not, it really is a generational thing. And I'm not saying like, Oh, boo-hoo, Oh no, you you're given a job by your dad to collect rent. But pretty much every that's pretty much every landlord I've had until Douggie.
[00:56:14] And also it's like, Oh, I w what they say on you're wrong about like, kind of like the, the British monarchy is basically a human rights violation. Like you're born into this family that thinks they're God
[00:56:31] Merlin: [00:56:31] Right. Well, you just, you just keep coming back to this original fact that if you keep exactly, if you keep stepping back and back and back and back, you eventually get to, we run a country. How many countries are in this country? Um, I said less, less, uh, we run, we run all of this because God
[00:56:50] Alex: [00:56:50] just, my, my, uh, great, great, great, great grandfather.
[00:56:54] Merlin: [00:56:54] they don't even talk about that.
[00:56:55] They only talk about that too much, but
[00:56:57] Alex: [00:56:57] caught up and, or rather tried not to get caught up in the Oprah slash Meghan Markle interview, but I'm like, all right, I'm fine. I'm like, Oh fuck. This is actually, this was, this is pretty good.
[00:57:09] Like who knows? I mean, whatever celebrities, but I'm like, huh? Oh yeah. Yeah. They're kinda, they're a in laws also suck. Um, no, my mine are lovely, but the gosh, I don't know where I was going with this.
[00:57:28] Merlin: [00:57:28] Oh, uh, you were saying the one time you felt like a thing where that's fine for Merlin was with bono, even bottom, having a boss, and then you pivoted from
[00:57:36] Alex: [00:57:36] by and large get to choose who their bosses are, obviously, because that is, you know, uh, that's how I class caste system was at work, but
[00:57:47] Merlin: [00:57:47] Well, the ultimate kind of power in a situation, you can think of this in terms of power exchange also, um, you know, like in a, in like a sexual romantic lifestyle way, but like power exchange means we both are willingly participating in this. I mean, ideally, and I'm not trying to make this like a, like a weird thing, but like in the situation, like you say, well, you know, we're going to have this kind of, uh, uh, of thing that we do and like the sexy thing, then you can both agree to that and what the rules are and all that kind of stuff.
[00:58:16] It's not so different for a landlord. It's just that the landlord is the one who gets to set all the rules about power. And so, you know, there's no right apart from the ones afforded by the law and everybody's always like, Oh yeah, we could Sue. If we want it to it's like, yeah, you ever been, did you ever see her get sued?
[00:58:32] It's really not super fun. It's really not. And like when you're going up against somebody, it's like fighting a frat boy, but like when you're out and I didn't see the landlord, or in most cases on a, uh, an employer, like you get there's laws. But apart from those laws, you get to set so many of the rules and either agree to the rules or you don't.
[00:58:52] And if you agree to the rules, then this is how the game works. And otherwise, you know, as I used to say to women in a, and in high school, you knew,
[00:59:03] Alex: [00:59:03] that's also the thing of, I think
[00:59:05] Merlin: [00:59:05] I was alone.
[00:59:06] Alex: [00:59:06] I mean, I'm not saying everybody can or should go out to every rally to protest, but Douggie isn't really, he's part of the problem, but he's not the sole purpose of like, it's that I just American individualism is just. Yeah, well that,
[00:59:26] Merlin: [00:59:26] he doesn't, he doesn't seem competent enough to be actively
[00:59:28] Alex: [00:59:28] still don't know if human beings can be inherently evil, but I think they can do very evil things. And who knows how many landlords are indeed evil? Uh, usually in competent and that bullshit jobs, uh, they're the middle managers of real estate, but like, I, I don't know. It's like getting pissed and going on an Instagram rant about your landlord specifically just always rings.
[00:59:59] Not, not even false because how do you, how do, how do you guess someone's in someone's. Intense intent and motivation. Like, I don't know, you can't, you probably shouldn't guess someone's emotion. Uh, but as, as the, the great Marge Simpson says in, I believe it's Marge versus itchy and scratchy, a single person can change the world, but maybe they should.
[01:00:27] And gosh,
[01:00:32] Merlin: [01:00:32] I am not a crank. We should talk about our challenge, but I would like to mention, I've added the show notes to Vimeo videos, one a droid metadata maladroit maladroit Chevelle, which is humanity horse that is in notes. And John Roderick on string art. Al's copper pipe and Banos bus. Those are in shown up.
[01:00:51] So, you know, our, our, our pod current, Hm three to the current place where we put the podcast changed some stuff recently, and they didn't not only did they kind of not really ask us if we wanted to change,
[01:01:08] Alex: [01:01:08] well, they said like, Oh, it is, Oh no, you're not being passive aggressive. You
[01:01:12] Merlin: [01:01:12] Whatever I'm being passive aggressive.
[01:01:13] Alex: [01:01:13] do you want those to change? I'm like, no, I know. I
[01:01:18] Merlin: [01:01:18] No, there's no, there's an episode slash episodes in there and I don't want
[01:01:21] Alex: [01:01:21] I, I, I thought that,
[01:01:23] Merlin: [01:01:23] the card on Twitter and it makes me angry.
[01:01:24] Alex: [01:01:24] like my, um,
[01:01:28] Merlin: [01:01:28] what I was texting you about last week was like, now it goes to slash episode slash foo and like it, so it doesn't give the card for the episode, which is frustrating because I like our images. I sweat that.
[01:01:37] Alex: [01:01:37] actually, I think this was part of why we chose this was because of, I don't know, because Squarespace had a limit, um, on RSS feeds. Oh, well, yes.
[01:01:51] Merlin: [01:01:51] People had friends at
[01:01:52] Alex: [01:01:52] we, we literally got like support at three in the morning. Um, but then it was old as these pivoted as they sink our well,
[01:02:01] Merlin: [01:02:01] rather be somewhere where I don't need support at three in the morning, but anyway.
[01:02:04] Alex: [01:02:04] holiday episode and I saw the dude was online anyway. Uh, am I flexing and start fucking whatever. Uh, but the, the idea
[01:02:13] Merlin: [01:02:13] no, no. You're saying, you're saying what everyone's saying, which
[01:02:16] Alex: [01:02:16] pay actually, um, as the, I hope not late the other, uh, wonderful, smart person and Marco Arment. Always there are always says, uh, set on a podcast recently, which I wrote down in my like big list of quotes.
[01:02:32] I've really liked of, you'll always find a market for people who really care when he was talking about how podcasts that are listened to at three X,
[01:02:41] Merlin: [01:02:41] Oh yeah.
[01:02:43] Alex: [01:02:43] with a lot of audio, um, like API APIs. And I'm like, Oh yeah, yeah. And those so many podcast services I've used it's they do what the investors want and everyone has to eat.
[01:02:57] But, uh, you don't care about them users
[01:03:02] Merlin: [01:03:02] Yes. This is what I said to the guy interviewing me about to-do apps to stay
[01:03:06] Alex: [01:03:06] tease that. You're going to be in wired. I want, I want I'm excited. Yeah. Yeah. Hmm.
[01:03:12] Merlin: [01:03:12] I hope so. I love that guy. He's the guy who wrote the New York times magazine piece. I was here.
[01:03:16] Alex: [01:03:16] uh, yup. Die.
[01:03:17] Merlin: [01:03:17] 2015 called meet the life
[01:03:20] Alex: [01:03:20] Anyway. Oh,.
[01:03:23] Merlin: [01:03:23] No, no, no, no, no. He's great. He's great. Oh, it's so much fun talking at the end. I was
[01:03:26] Alex: [01:03:26] real side, but real actual sidebar. I've like read all of his, um, his final book and I, I really hated the first one. Oh, okay. Anyway, I like how Clive Thompson or, sorry. Um, what's his name? I don't know. Ever. Yeah. He's just his w
[01:03:46] Merlin: [01:03:46] Cal Newport, Cal Newport,
[01:03:48] Alex: [01:03:48] Oh, I thought you said
[01:03:49] Merlin: [01:03:49] Cal. Newport's the new Yorker article. This is the wired article. That's not out.
[01:03:53] Alex: [01:03:53] Oh, I'm sorry.
[01:03:54] Merlin: [01:03:54] No, no, no, no. This dude Oh, Boy Clive Thompson wrote a piece for the New York times magazine in 2015, 2015, no, sorry. 2005, 2005 called meet the
[01:04:04] Alex: [01:04:04] Cal Newport, I just think has changed a lot of his opinions and even in his writings, I don't, I don't know. I just remember the Oh,. All right. All right. I, I think they're better.
[01:04:17] Merlin: [01:04:17] Yeah, no, no. Everybody likes that. No, I liked the guy. He's nice. He's nice. But you know, not him, not him, but in general, sometimes it turns out writers start with a big idea and backfill it. Um, and what was I going to say about that and what we're saying to the dude? It was like, no shade, no eliminate, first of all, sit at my table.
[01:04:36] Anytime, if you want to talk about every five years, Clive comes back to this talking about like, why, why is it such a persistent problem? On that people can't land on in particular, an app that they're happy with for doing to do stuff. And
[01:04:50] Alex: [01:04:50] Oh, thank God.
[01:04:51] Merlin: [01:04:51] kids want to come in on NFTs soon.
[01:04:53] It's supposed to be really good. We actually explains what it is and all that's the one thing I'm going to read, but, but I said, you know, I said, well, I think one, one understandable side of this is that like, if you make up a 20, 40, $80 app, for people who are obsessed with this kind of app, you can't just fold your arms for 10 years.
[01:05:13] You have to be responsive. If people say, I'm not, I'm going to stop paying this subscription on this and let you, unless you let me pick the shade of red for and bold level of bold for all of my high priority tasks and like, well, some Merlin man is going to go, Oh, dude, There's no app that's ever going to help you.
[01:05:29] There's not an app to make you care. Oh my goodness. Why are you doing this to these people? But you kind of got to do it. If that's, what's going to keep people using your app, you have to give them a nice, cool, fresh glass of saltwater, because that's what they ask for you. Don't get to say whether it's a good idea.
[01:05:43] You say like, yes, sir. Thank you for the request nobody's ever going to try to talk you out of the thing that keeps you desiring
[01:05:51] Alex: [01:05:51] that's so
[01:05:52] Merlin: [01:05:52] that. And more
[01:05:53] Alex: [01:05:53] fucking good. Uh,
[01:05:58] Merlin: [01:05:58] I just added a new, my quotes list, which I love let's review. It's been a while since we've looked at and let's talk about the Steve, did you watch the TV
[01:06:06] Alex: [01:06:06] one of them twice. Yeah. Yeah. There's only one, right?
[01:06:11] Merlin: [01:06:11] of the first season?
[01:06:12] Alex: [01:06:12] love. Yeah.
[01:06:13] Merlin: [01:06:13] Wow. Let's see, uh, Oh God. So here's some recent ones. So I have this, I have this thought, cause there's things I find myself quoting. Well, there's some things that I just, this is my commonplace book sort of right. All of a sudden I've just come across a quote that I like. So early ones, sometimes it'll just be a quote, but a lot of times it's a quote through like, I'm like, I, I almost get this quote.
[01:06:33] Right. And it's so good. I don't want to keep screwing it up. And so I have quotes to get right. Run X dot M D. And this includes things like a stacker, Pentecost speech in the Pacific rim at the edge of our hope. At the end of our time, we've chosen not only to believe in ourselves, but in each other, that one get Nick fury saying until such time.
[01:06:53] Oh, Oh man. Oh, can we, can we do a side core door on my good coat? My very
[01:06:57] Alex: [01:06:57] Yes I do.
[01:06:59] Merlin: [01:06:59] Do you have time? When Do appearance text display? I broke my envy out. So I'm looking at PB edit. It's kind of confusing. Soft word
[01:07:08] Alex: [01:07:08] Yes, I have
[01:07:09] Merlin: [01:07:09] Here we go. Okay. You ever seen Pacific rim? So Guillermo Del Toro.
[01:07:15] I now know of two things where he did an amazing cameo he's father Christmas, the one who stabs Nick angel, Nicholas angel in the hand in hot fuzz. That's uh, no way. That's Peter Jackson as Peter Jackson, Guillermo Del Toro is, um, is, uh, Pappy
[01:07:30] Alex: [01:07:30] my God. Oh my God. Yes. Yes,
[01:07:33] Merlin: [01:07:33] The leprechaun looking guy with the bird under his hat.
[01:07:35] Remember Charlie and the bird, because it was because Charlie, Charlie was in Pacific rim. He's very good. Also he, his partner in that or his like co is like the Laurel to his Hardy or whatever, that, that creepy looking English guy. He is in a really good Sonny. The one where Charlie
[01:07:54] Alex: [01:07:54] it was, it's basically like Charlie for Elgin, but I forget what it's called. Oh, that's good.
[01:08:02] Merlin: [01:08:02] Yeah. Flowers for Charlie, that's it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a speech, a stacker Pentecost played by, um, uh, Idris Elba. Is this a speech in Pacific rim, which I think, you know, everybody out there shut up. It's an underrated movie today, today at the edge of our hope. At the end of our time, we have chosen not only to believe in ourselves, but in each other today.
[01:08:21] There's not a man nor woman in here that shall stand alone. Not today. Today, we face the monsters that are at our door and bring the fight to them. Today. We are canceling the apocalypse that good Nick fury, uh, until such time as the
[01:08:36] Alex: [01:08:36] Nick fury that's some good in, was that N in a comic or, or a movie?
[01:08:44] Merlin: [01:08:44] do it. That's a toward the, toward the big sort of the beginning of Avengers. It's kind of like when they're bugging out of the, of the place, I think, uh, let's see. Upton Sinclair. I used to say to our audiences, it is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.
[01:09:02] Which I get wrong a lot. Kurt Vonnegut, Kurt Vonnegut rules of the game suffering equals pain times resistance. That's Shinzen young Matt Chrisman cocaine is still collecting royalties for all of these songs. It was just a good line. Oh, this is actually not Chinese. It's French.
[01:09:20] Alex: [01:09:20] These are all good. Oh, dig it. He dug challenge.
[01:09:25] Merlin: [01:09:25] a minister at the first Corinthian Baptist church in Harlem said your words will go to places. You will never go
[01:09:32] Alex: [01:09:32] Oh,
[01:09:33] Merlin: [01:09:33] add the short and long version of everything is copy by Nora Ephron. There's something that nor his mother always told her. So there's something, she lived her life. By first, it confused me.
[01:09:43] One day I found something. She said the better explained. She said, my mother wanted us to understand that the tragedies of your life one day have the potential to be comic stories. The next, I think that's a wonderful way to look at life. Even if you're going through something horrific, at least you can write about it one day.
[01:09:56] If there's something you don't want to do, use it as material and other day. This is definitely something many people should do and live their lives by, especially if you're a writer, everything is copy. David Sedaris, the Santa land diaries. All I do is lie
[01:10:09] Alex: [01:10:09] These are so I've never heard are these new Oh,.
[01:10:16] Merlin: [01:10:16] Really. I only got to just a few more, a few more quickies, uh, James Baldwin. You have to impose. In fact, this may sound very strange. You have to decide who you are and force the world to deal with you. Now with this idea
[01:10:26] Alex: [01:10:26] No insight in any of these. Yes. Oh,
[01:10:31] Merlin: [01:10:31] is that okay? I got a couple more Oh, uh, George Harrison. They used us as an excuse to go mad and then blamed it on us. This is my latest one is from my shrink, who gives me lots of, uh, good things. Uh, this is a guy named what's. His name is James clerk Maxwell. I cannot help thinking about, and we were talking about executive function and that sort of stuff like we do.
[01:10:52] We talk about basically computers and, you know, prefrontal cortex. I cannot help thinking about the immediate circumstances, which have brought a thing to pass rather than about any will sitting them in motion. Ready? What is done by what is called myself is I feel done by something greater than myself in me. Read that again. What is done by what is called myself is I feel done by something greater than
[01:11:18] Alex: [01:11:18] I'm trying to write a blitz.
[01:11:21] Merlin: [01:11:21] Fucking a man. He was, he was dying. He's dying. James clerk Maxwell. I can, 79. He was terminally ill. And he
[01:11:26] Alex: [01:11:26] Um, yeah,
[01:11:28] Merlin: [01:11:28] he has to get right
[01:11:29] Alex: [01:11:29] no, no, no. We,
[01:11:32] Merlin: [01:11:32] giving you good quotes. You like stacker,
[01:11:33] Alex: [01:11:33] uh, I I'm just, uh, I hate Illinois. That's a good movie. Oh God.
[01:11:44] Merlin: [01:11:44] dark, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.
[01:11:46] Alex: [01:11:46] I miss it
[01:11:49] Merlin: [01:11:49] And then they go to that mall. That scene, when they drive the car through the mall, it's pretty
[01:11:52] Alex: [01:11:52] suburban mall too. Like I think it's so I don't know how to explain it, but there are, I've been to many, a shopping mall. The blues brothers shopping mall is so Midwest.
[01:12:07] Merlin: [01:12:07] Oh my God. It's such a, it's a, I watched a, um, see, I never even opened Bloomberg pages on the web anymore because it always tells you the amount of views. Um, I'm hoping eventually I have little snitch helped me with that by just not letting me ever see it. But I did watch the Bloomberg, Bloomberg, Bloomberg video last night about the decline of malls that was kind of thought provoking and talking in particular about like, there's these grades of mall as graded by this, these consulting groups.
[01:12:33] And, you know, basically the A-plus malls are doing great. Like there are malls in like Miami, um, or, uh, long Island that are literally this just like Rolex. Um, and you know, it's just all super high end. There's no, you know, . Pretzels there. Um, this are the ones that are suffering those again. Good. Continue to do well.
[01:12:53] And when stores close, they tend to keep stores open in the fancy malls. It's the B through D malls that are in trouble right now. And especially as this, this African-American woman from Atlanta said in this video, I'll find it for notes. You know, there's a lot there. Malls malls started popping up in the fifties, especially the sixties, but the seventies were the heyday.
[01:13:11] When I look at a mall, like the one that I guess mostly it's a set in blues brothers, it reminds me of those malls that are, are now in areas that used to be slightly more affluent
[01:13:23] Alex: [01:13:23] one might say they went away when the middle class
[01:13:27] Merlin: [01:13:27] But like the malls
[01:13:28] Alex: [01:13:28] started to go away. Oh,
[01:13:32] Merlin: [01:13:32] Yeah. Like the, the, the median, the median income in Atlanta, like has gone down a lot. It's really weird. I'll
[01:13:39] Alex: [01:13:39] welcome to Do By
[01:13:40] Merlin: [01:13:40] And I like this lady. She
[01:13:41] Alex: [01:13:41] the secrets socialist Oh,
[01:13:45] Merlin: [01:13:45] when we talk about malls,
[01:13:46] Alex: [01:13:46] we briefly.
[01:13:50] Merlin: [01:13:50] Oh, wait, hang on Lincoln. My belts over here. I, I
[01:13:52] Alex: [01:13:52] This week's challenge comes from Merlin man, and it was to watch well, just at least the first episode that I ended up watching the whole season, uh, watching the first episode of made for love, which is an HBO max original series.
[01:14:10] Merlin: [01:14:10] that bit of the after show for my daughter, because my daughter loves you so much. And, and just always, basically anything I do. Anytime you come up, uh, Emma continues to look at her phone and doing whatever, because I love them. So you're loved. And, uh, but I played the bit where I'm describing this show to you.
[01:14:27] And it was really funny. You were very, very funny in the after-show cause I said, Oh, you should check out the show made for love, like, okay, whatever. And it's like, Oh, well it's this guy, the dumb guy from game night
[01:14:36] Alex: [01:14:36] still a dumb guy.
[01:14:37] Merlin: [01:14:37] and he plays a kind of a composite, a composite sketch of a charismatic billionaire tech douchebag, um, obviously too handsome for any of them, but, but very much having these sort of, um, how does one say ability to issues with reading people's emotions and
[01:14:58] Alex: [01:14:58] Oh, he's on the spectrum. I wouldn't know. There's
[01:15:00] Merlin: [01:15:00] invoking, like he's got his own thing going on? Yes. And he's reshaped reality to be the way he thinks it should be. And he lives with the beautiful dark haired, dark eyed girl from dark quiet death in a virtual reality house. As we discover that's not a huge spoiler, right?
[01:15:17] Alex: [01:15:17] Yeah. Uh, yeah.
[01:15:19] Merlin: [01:15:19] From the, from pretty early on. And, and then I said, there's a dolphin. And you were like, I think the phrase he uses are you dangling porn in front of my face
[01:15:28] Alex: [01:15:28] No, I couldn't
[01:15:29] Merlin: [01:15:29] and you can not believe you hadn't heard of this
[01:15:31] Alex: [01:15:31] because, uh, like it wasn't a huge, it, it, it was received very well, but you know how, of course, you know, I want to, HBO is like, here's the other thing you watch on HBO? And I'm like, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip. So I probably didn't. Oh gosh.
[01:15:48] Merlin: [01:15:48] Right. I mean, I feel like it's, I mean, I'm not, not to go too far ahead of ourselves. I really liked the show, but it's almost a little bit like a halt and catch fire where you're like, you know, I was saying to Siracusa like Hong catch fire is it's really good, but it's not like, you know what I mean? It's one of those shows that's merely very good.
[01:16:07] Like I think it's not as smart. It's not as smart as I thought it was. And I think maybe it's not as smart as it thinks it is, but I love the characters in the world. And like with this, I just, I love that actress. I love Ray Romano, Alexandra. Um, you've watched a lot of this show in the last week. Um, we'll try and keep it spoiler free, I guess, whatever.
[01:16:24] What do you want to say about this show and what it's about? Give the, give the logline, the pitch. Give me a paragraph on this show. What's what even is made for love.
[01:16:31] Alex: [01:16:31] because who the fuck knows what satire I is. Uh, but again, on the fifth, first, like 15 minutes, they do show that, uh, this woman who's been married to this kind of, this parody of Steve jobs slash uh, Mark Zuckerberg. Uh, they'd been Oh,, they they'd been married for 10 years, 10, 10 fucking years.
[01:16:55] And they haven't left. What is essentially the Google campus that he's made called Gogel, which kind of annoyed me.
[01:17:07] Merlin: [01:17:07] Man a different size boxes that are like rooms that
[01:17:12] Alex: [01:17:12] uh, like
[01:17:12] Merlin: [01:17:12] would you call it
[01:17:13] Alex: [01:17:13] says it too of like, this is, uh, we created this world so I could have it exactly as I want. So like, you know, I don't have to be around a dirty bit.
[01:17:25] Merlin: [01:17:25] And was trying to impress when he's trying to impress this reporter. He, I think it was a reporter. He like
[01:17:30] Alex: [01:17:30] And I mean,
[01:17:31] Merlin: [01:17:31] he knows the reporter. Like,
[01:17:33] Alex: [01:17:33] I don't want to spoil some things, but she does escape this world. Cause you realize is, Oh fuck.
[01:17:42] Merlin: [01:17:42] it's the, I mean, that's a great start. Great. Start to the show, right? Like what is happening on this show? There's a soaking wet woman with her mascara running like climbing out of a hatch in the middle of a desert. So like already big vibes of somewhere between,
[01:17:58] Alex: [01:17:58] yeah, y'all always got well and, and sort of up black mirror, but only because a Kristin, um, I think only because Kristin , uh, again, this isn't a spoiler. Yes. But she also
[01:18:10] Merlin: [01:18:10] in the moment Landry. She's in the star Trek world
[01:18:12] Alex: [01:18:12] crazy men's lives or their minds, their literal minds. Like what the fuck
[01:18:18] Merlin: [01:18:18] it's true. That also has, um, my, my beloved Jimmy, uh, Jimmy Simpson and it, in that episode who plays, who plays McCoyle
[01:18:28] Alex: [01:18:28] is?
[01:18:28] Merlin: [01:18:28] who plays loud the intern. And he's also the guy on Westworld. I love
[01:18:31] Alex: [01:18:31] Oh yeah. You said McCoyle. Yeah. Yeah. Love, love him. He's a co-writer uh, yeah. Oh, gosh.
[01:18:37] Merlin: [01:18:37] Oh my God. The the McCoys. And when the, when the brother, Oh my God. Oh my God. And then it looks like he's blowing him. Oh my God. I love them so much.
[01:18:47] Alex: [01:18:47] again? It's it's so
[01:18:49] Merlin: [01:18:49] Yeah. You ever seen the sister in real life? She's a
[01:18:50] Alex: [01:18:50] yeah, it's, uh, I, I, it's not been, I would say that I always Google an actor. Hulu is. Being portrayed as like
[01:19:01] Merlin: [01:19:01] I wouldn't say that
[01:19:02] Alex: [01:19:02] jokey, like, Oh, look at how ugly they are. And I'm like, I bet they're really hot in real life. Aren't they they're really. And then you're like, ah, I had,
[01:19:11] Merlin: [01:19:11] And they always are.
[01:19:12] Alex: [01:19:12] I Oh, and there's a dolphin.
[01:19:15] And. I've gotten to know there's a sextile slash synthetic partner in this shuttling. It's if you enjoy what, see if you have, uh,
[01:19:30] Merlin: [01:19:30] There
[01:19:31] Alex: [01:19:31] I guess you've come to understand my aesthetic based on listening to this show, then you will probably like this show like halt and catch fire is not for everybody. That show is like very much for me.
[01:19:46] And, but like, I can see like Maddie and I are just obsessed with it, but like it's for most people, it's like, ah, this is a good show. This is a good devil. And that's how I would sort of describe this of like, this is a lovely thing that you can enjoy in like a day. And especially because the characters are so lovable.
[01:20:06] Oh my
[01:20:07] Merlin: [01:20:07] Yeah.
[01:20:08] Alex: [01:20:08] creepy guy.
[01:20:11] Merlin: [01:20:11] But you the, um, Billy, for example, it's trying to make my kid, like, it's one of those ones where I I'm always just being that guy. He's like, I don't really watch this really watch. This is good. Like when she, like, in the first episode, when she's in the lounge chair, there's like some clues
[01:20:25] Alex: [01:20:25] that's the thing. Just the
[01:20:26] Merlin: [01:20:26] Yeah. Let's not spoiled. Well, let's not spoil it, but we there's, obviously there's, there's some shenanigans and there's flashbacks and they make it wonderfully unclear when something is happening. Um, which I, I tend to really like in a TV show, like I am obviously Westworld. They are being a great example of like, where does this figure in the sequence?
[01:20:45] I was like, Oh, that was actually like a flashback. But, um, but there's the scene where she's sitting in the chair with the big hat and she looks down, reaches over and picks something up off the ground. And like, you're not going to know what that
[01:21:00] Alex: [01:21:00] way it's very like prestige. Yes.
[01:21:04] Merlin: [01:21:04] but they really lean into the wackadoo of that
[01:21:06] Alex: [01:21:06] absurdist science fiction-y type things. Sure. But I, I, again, with the characters, but I don't know. There's, there's something about in those very, very fake worlds. I was like, yes. If I can see myself doing that exact same thing and reacting that way and like, uh,
[01:21:32] Merlin: [01:21:32] the way she plays. It is also, I think the way she plays it, it's so interesting because I mean, I feel like I need, I need a name for this. Would you help me please? Maybe the challenges we helped me name my, my bevy of dark hair, big beauties. I need a name for this group, but like amongst all it, like Lizzy Kaplan, similar deal, it wasn't in Christina.
[01:21:49] Malati her ditto lady from, well, like S very good at like her and Lizzy Caplan in particular, like very expressive, you know, expressions that are pregnant with something. Like, you're not sure exactly what's going on. And if so many times in this, like we're like in the interviews where you obviously you see her, I don't know.
[01:22:10] I think this is way harder to do than it looks, but there are several scenes, including ones where she's in an interview with her husband, where you can see her pausing. And like, as soon as she's pausing, she puts on exactly the right supportive wife face. Then you see her processing, what am I going to say to this?
[01:22:27] But not
[01:22:28] Alex: [01:22:28] like
[01:22:28] Merlin: [01:22:28] you know what I mean? I think that's a very subtle
[01:22:31] Alex: [01:22:31] this. Like I,
[01:22:32] Merlin: [01:22:32] Yeah. Yes. Like get me out of here at blink twice kind of thing. But, but then she finds something to say like, Oh, but you know, with a husband like mine, I don't even really, I don't need the made for love chip because we already share so many thoughts, which is exactly the answer that he wanted to hear. I'm like, maybe she's up to some business. Is this a con what's going, you know what I mean? Don't you get that in the first few episodes of like, you're not sure, like what,
[01:22:59] Alex: [01:22:59] other
[01:23:00] Merlin: [01:23:00] what her deal is.
[01:23:01] Alex: [01:23:01] yup. Yup.
[01:23:03] Merlin: [01:23:03] Why would you agree to just
[01:23:04] Alex: [01:23:04] know again, that is something where I'm like, Oh yeah, no, this, this would absolutely happen. And I think they also, they, they being, uh, the, the writers who adapted this from the book, which I now have the Kindle sample of. Cause apparently it's very different and I'm ex yes.
[01:23:23] Uh, The NA I would say this is straight up absurdist, like adult version, the way, the way you read the description, it's like a bit more of a, a Hitchhiker's guide, but for adults with some of the situations. And, uh, let's just say this, this man has orgasms in a very different way. And in the book it involves a machine and, uh, yeah, it's great.
[01:23:52] Yep.
[01:23:55] Merlin: [01:23:55] Okay. Okay. Whoo. Oh, I love his helper guy. I love the red hair helper
[01:23:59] Alex: [01:23:59] I just there's something about Boy is in prestige TV too. I don't know. No, I liked the intro. I
[01:24:08] Merlin: [01:24:08] Hmm, but like, she's, she just wants to play her airplane game. She wants to play our airplane game. And, but he keeps one, but it's like me and Instacart. He keeps getting the pop-up. I like, and that's not what I'm doing right
[01:24:20] Alex: [01:24:20] Oh 100%. It's the
[01:24:22] Merlin: [01:24:22] I would still recommend it when you recommend it.
[01:24:24] Alex: [01:24:24] of this type of show needs to be. There's very little filler. And the biggest problem I have with a lot of flashbacks is one another prestige, whatever we think of that word and, or like golden age TV, uh, it's a trope for that, but it's often then overused as a way for exposition.
[01:24:46] And there's very little, I really exposition for me, at least in this show, there was literally one line that this is a spoiler, like, um, wait, uh, insert name here, your ex-husband. And it's like, if, if you've known somebody a long time, you know, that it's an ex-husband. And, but, but the, it was literally the one line where I'm like, Oh my God, terrible.
[01:25:14] As you know, Bob. Yeah, but the only as
[01:25:18] Merlin: [01:25:18] You mean like as an, as you know, as, as, as, as you know, Bob. Yeah. As you know, Bob, we have to charge up
[01:25:26] Alex: [01:25:26] know. Uh,
[01:25:27] Merlin: [01:25:27] stuff. Why don't you be telling me that? We all know that
[01:25:30] Alex: [01:25:30] the,
[01:25:30] Merlin: [01:25:30] at that. I just sent you the Memorial
[01:25:32] Alex: [01:25:32] my
[01:25:32] Merlin: [01:25:32] her out. And she has now back
[01:25:33] Alex: [01:25:33] well, she's, she's, uh, not
[01:25:35] Merlin: [01:25:35] as assistant with the mustache,
[01:25:36] Alex: [01:25:36] on the show, I definitely have a, have a type and the other McCoyle the, uh, brunette one with short hair is, you know, if, uh,
[01:25:49] the, with those little emo
[01:25:51] Merlin: [01:25:51] The, the, the, the brother. Okay. So wait, I'm getting the names mixed up here. You got Jimmy Simpson
[01:25:59] Alex: [01:25:59] yup.
[01:26:01] Merlin: [01:26:01] his eye at the wedding.
[01:26:02] Alex: [01:26:02] Oh, I forgot about that episode.
[01:26:04] Merlin: [01:26:04] Oh, my God
[01:26:06] Alex: [01:26:06] my
[01:26:06] Merlin: [01:26:06] at the Ponderosa, the problematic Ponderosa wedding. Yes. And then you got his brother who just got out of the shower. Do you recognize the brother from something a long time
[01:26:19] Alex: [01:26:19] Steve, his name? Yeah, I don't know.
[01:26:25] Merlin: [01:26:25] Yeah, no. He's got a very Buschemi vibe. I think he had a, he had a small role in that thing. You do. He's very funny in that thing. You do. He's one of the fans who becomes like a no I'm a fan, but the first thing I think almost
[01:26:40] Alex: [01:26:40] Oh. Oh, hello.
[01:26:47] Merlin: [01:26:47] The guy ever seen guys sit a guy sitting around, listening to the radio. And he can cookies and they say, okay, we're gonna do our, you know, lucky color. And if they know the answer to the question, they're gonna win $10,000. Do you remember this? And he's, he's just jamming cookies in his mouth and they go, and the question is going to be who shot Alexander Hamilton.
[01:27:07] And he, they call him and he picks up the phone with a mouth full of cookies. He goes, Ooh, Ooh.
[01:27:13] Alex: [01:27:13] Well, he
[01:27:14] Merlin: [01:27:14] And he goes, he grabs milk. And he's all out of milk.
[01:27:16] Alex: [01:27:16] you know,
[01:27:17] Merlin: [01:27:17] Funny YouTube. Oh, I see.
[01:27:22] Alex: [01:27:22] welcome
[01:27:22] Merlin: [01:27:22] quiet uptown. Ooh. Here's her in a bikini. Look at
[01:27:25] Alex: [01:27:25] It's because,
[01:27:26] Merlin: [01:27:26] Nothing wrong with that. Welcome to Do By Friday.
[01:27:29] Alex: [01:27:29] I'm a gay, I don't know.
[01:27:34] Merlin: [01:27:34] And it's okay for me. Cause I have no libido.
[01:27:38] Alex: [01:27:38] Good. There we go.
[01:27:40] Merlin: [01:27:40] the sin of Onan.
[01:27:42] Alex: [01:27:42] That's an out
[01:27:46] Merlin: [01:27:46] Oh,, here's where I'm making a funny face to make poles. Oh my God. That, that episode with the eyepatch the, um,
[01:27:52] Alex: [01:27:52] Oh yeah. Where it's a
[01:27:54] Merlin: [01:27:54] where they have the Thanksgiving dinner. Do you remember that one? And Frank, Frank is like head to head with the landlord who won't fix the heat. Uh, uh, cricket is there, uh, there's the guy who thinks he's there to see his kids.
[01:28:07] Um, the Ponderosa's doing drugs. Ponderosa's buying drugs from his son. Who's like email. Oh my God. It's such a
[01:28:14] Alex: [01:28:14] getting Maddy into it, I made a bargain that I will
[01:28:21] Merlin: [01:28:21] I totally get why somebody would just not want to watch it. It's just, you can't even describe like how balletic that show is. How is a show that's 40 and I've watched a bunch of YouTube videos about this. That's just 14 years old. Goes so many fucking places and it's still, it's the longest running live action comedy in history.
[01:28:40] It's, it's beat. I beat Ozzie and Harriet, like it's been on forever and it's still so fucking
[01:28:45] Alex: [01:28:45] the endurance of the creators makes it feel like, wow, they really care about what they're doing, which is why.
[01:28:56] Merlin: [01:28:56] I totally agree. I finally watched the one with, um, the gang tries desperately to get an award because I was watching, I posted this on the Twitter and I showed my family, but I watched the compilation. It's a YouTube compilation. It's basically every time the gang sings and it's, I mean, it's not every single one, but like it's pretty from the beginning, it starts with Dennis saying they were going to give you up, but I'd never seen that episode.
[01:29:21] And when they get to Charlie doing the, the, the song that he hopes will win the great song contest, we need the great, there is no great song contest. And he writes, he writes that insane song and then they start spitting on
[01:29:32] Alex: [01:29:32] But also
[01:29:33] Merlin: [01:29:33] Have you ever seen
[01:29:33] Alex: [01:29:33] we should take a break cause I do have to pee. Uh, wait, is this not? No, we have an out with your
[01:29:40] Merlin: [01:29:40] okay. Okay. Uh, no, no.
[01:29:44] I know we added, we added, we added with the
[01:29:46] Alex: [01:29:46] good.
[01:29:47] Merlin: [01:29:47] Do you want to come back at a top of the hour? Oh, do you then stupid face ugly face
[01:29:53] Alex: [01:29:53] her.